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Sophie Grégoire Trudeau talks 'unacceptable' feelings of guilt on Meghan Markle's podcast

Sophie Grégoire Trudeau talked about the pressures of womanhood and motherhood on the latest episode of Meghan Markle's podcast. (Photo by Nicholas Hunt/Getty Images)
Sophie Grégoire Trudeau talked about the pressures of womanhood and motherhood on the latest episode of Meghan Markle's podcast. (Photo by Nicholas Hunt/Getty Images)

Sophie Grégoire Trudeau is opening up about being a woman, mother and public figure.

The 47-year-old activist and former Canadian television host spoke to Meghan Markle on the Duchess of Sussex's podcast, "Archetypes," in a new episode titled, "Good Wife/Bad Wife, Good Mom/Bad Mom."

On the podcast's latest episode, the two women discussed what it means to be a woman and mother in the public eye, and the strength it takes to be a woman today.

"Sophie has become a dear friend, and someone who I think is so emblematic of strength that comes from embracing humanity, even in the face of all these family and home and public pressures," Markle said in the episode. "Keeping that sense of self while holding up the mantle of what comes with being a parent and a spouse, that's a full plate.

"She knows what it feels like to be a mom and a partner, and specifically a mom and a partner in the public eye, and also how crushing the guilt of expectations can become the guilt that we feel as mothers or as women in general is self-imposed."

Sophie, who's a mother-of-three and wife to Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, shared her own thoughts on that guilt associated with womanhood.

"I think we've learned to self-impose it," Sophie added. "A little girl is not born feeling guilty for being a girl. We learn it. And that's completely unacceptable. When I started becoming an older girl in an early adult stage, I realized that we often define 'freedom' as a way to be free from the world, but it's really a way to be free in the world."

Markle then shared a quote from a book called "A Radical Awakening" by Shefali Tsabary, which she had shared with Trudeau.

"'There comes a time in the life of a woman when her desire to fit in with the crowd dissolves,'" Markle read in the latter part of the quote. "'When her manic compulsion to be perfect vaporizes, and when her obsession to be voted popular eviscerates. There comes a time in the life of a woman when she simply says, "No more." When facade, artifice and guile leave her nauseated, and when righteousness, dogma and superiority repulse her. There comes a time in the life of a woman when she no longer fears conflict, but faces it boldly like a lioness when she guards her authenticity as fearlessly as she guards her babies.'"

Trudeau then went on to explain that she thinks the lioness is "a metaphor" for everything about a woman, since a lioness does a lot of the work in her own tribe.

"Women across this planet are still the nucleus of the family, they still carry most of the load for housework, contributing to the family's well-being and most decisions concerning the kids," Trudeau shared. "But I think we're all that lioness, we all have that inside of us, and we all long to be free in who we are."

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